DD2 Spoilers Talk Post!

[supreme_overlord]

Some of us have been discussing things on Tumblr... but Tumblr isn't exactly best place for discussions. lmao

So here's a post to chat about all the juicy spoilers! :Db

If you're looking to avoid spoilers, I'd stay outta this post. lol

Comments

[supreme_overlord]

Oh gosh... the novels. |D Hayley and me have a lotta headcanon re: that...

Yeah, Laharl needed his dad more than anything then, so to get sent off to his aunt was epic awful of Krichevskoy... but think of it from Krichevskoy's POV... He just lost his wife (Sicily aside at this point XD I guess we'll see if she gets added to the novel universe...) and was splitting the earth in TWO from his grief. He was probably massively mourning. He probably felt he was doing the right thing sending Laharl away where he'd get attention that he probably didn't feel capable of giving Laharl. I mean, just looking at his son would make him think of everything that had happened/see his wife and such.

Obviously just didn't realize it'd be the WRONG type of attention. :x If he'd known what was going on, I'm sure he'd have never sent Laharl away.

[lordlaharlsvassal]

I would really like to hear you guys novel headcanons, reading Hayley’s headcanons about Vyers was almost as entertaining as watching him.

I totally get what you mean about him mourning his wife, but after playing though Etna mode and seeing Etna’s flashbacks Krichevskoy came of as much more component than what the novels gives him credit for, of course I know they were written before that, but I feel the novels were too quick to throw Krichevskoy under the bus on that one, and I feel my headcanon could even that out.

[shadetoshade]

Ah, thank you!

And I don't think it quite threw him under the bus so much as it kind of... humanized him, I guess? I mean, he's probably not just mourning his wife at the time, he's gotta be thinking of his own failures as a father in that. The games state that they were looking for any other cure for Laharl's illness than sacrifice, but Krichevskoy couldn't find it.

On top of that, he wasn't the one who sacrificed himself, and the sacrifice called for someone who loved Laharl. On top of wondering if he gave up too early on finding a different path, he was probably wondering why he didn't do it instead of his wife, or what that meant about his feelings toward his son. Was there something that could have been done? Was there a way they all could have been together? If he wasn't the one that gave his life, did he really love his son enough?

Now, all that being said, I actually like your theory too, especially because it works even when you disregard the novels/if more things in the novels are shown to not be game canon. Having to go between Celestia and the Netherworld so much probably took a lot of time away from Laharl, and considering the Netherworld's relations with Celestia at the time it wasn't as though Krichevskoy could explain what he was doing.

[lordlaharlsvassal]

What you are saying makes perfect sense to me from game’s perspective; that he would not spend that much time with Laharl after the sacrifice, possibly avoiding him, feeling like a failure and all, it’s from the novel’s perspective it falls apart to me because of Yasurl. Now I don’t know about you guys, but to me Yasurl looks about as obviously evil as Vulcanus, and the idea of Krichevskoy being such a bad judge of character as to think leaving him in her care was an acceptable idea I feel was going of the edge, she is just too terrible to me, had it not been her I could understand.

Slightly of topic but another thing I did not like that the novels did in relation to Krichevskoy is how Baal was handled; he is a complete weakling and idea of Krichevskoy dyeing sealing that version of Baal is just insulting.

Reading your analysis of Krichevskoy’s grief made me think of something else, even though Laharl’s mother was pregnant with Sicily she was still the one who sacrificed herself, makes me wonder if Krichevskoy knew she was pregnant and how that must have affected him, I find it to be an odd choice to have Laharl’s mother be the one who sacrificed herself since at the time that meant the sacrifice of two lives instead of just one. I always thought Laharl’s mother was the parent that made the sacrifice because Krichevskoy was king and he was responsible for the kingdom as well as his family, but now what does not seem like such a good reason.

[taiga_ameca]

About Yasurl though.

Yes, Yasurl looks untrustworthy, but she is his brother's wife. Considering Krichevskoy's personality, I don't find it odd that he would trust his brother, especially if said brother hasn't done anything to betray his trust yet. It still turned out horrible in the end, but at the moment, no one knew anything about what they really thought of him.

And don't forget, they ARE demons... half the vassals in the castle look "obviously evil". XD

[supreme_overlord]

^ This. XD He probably hadn't thought of it as sending him to his aunt so much as sending him to the care of his brother.

Not to mention, I sorta doubt Krichevskoy even ever really found out about what happened. Laharl certainly wasn't about to tell him. (Given his father sent him away... that's another thing I like about this with the novels... it gives a VERY legit reason for Laharl to have hated his father.)

[supreme_overlord]

I really doubt either had realized Laharl's mother was pregnant. (Which is fully possible!) Hopefully that's something that might be brought to light with a full translation of Lamington's explanation... But yeah. I REALLY really doubt she knew.

Oh, yeah, the way the author wrote Baal in the novels sucks.